Atti Bethlenfalvy : CON MAN
Con Man
Noun
1. A swindler who exploits the confidence of his victim.
At the 2005 MICROS IN MADISON meet in GA, Linda and Kerry Erendson wondered where they could get a Scootacar sign like the one that Bruce Weiner had hanging on the wall. They were introduced to Atti Bethlenfalvy.
Atti had done a number of the custom pieces that Bruce owned.
He had also done a number of Microcar Neon signs for other people in the past. Linda wanted to surprise Kerry with a custom Scootacar Neon for his birthday and this seemed to be the best way to get it done!
About a year ago, Marilyn Felling asked me if I knew where she could get an Isetta Neon sign like one she had seen at Ken Weger’s place in the summer of 2006. I think Ken had mentioned Atti to her and she was asking me if I knew how to get in touch with him. I knew that Atti had screwed up in the past, but he seemed to be turning a corner and “getting his priorities straight”. Besides, he wouldn’t dream of messing with Marilyn Felling “The Isetta Lady”. Would he?
So Marilyn ordered a sign from Atti.
A short time after the ITALIANMETALS “Too Bad” piece appeared in MICROCAR NEWS, I got an email from Linda Erendson. She felt compelled to share her story about how she had ordered something from Atti, LAST YEAR and was still trying to get it even though she had paid him in full $480! I saw the emails she had sent and Atti’s responses. I immediately recognized that he was up to his old excuses and had no intention of delivering anything.
He even sent a photo to Linda of the “completed” Scootacar Neon piece as proof it was completed. Unfortunately the photo was not of what she ordered, but was basically a “file photo” of something else he had made years earlier.
Linda also shared with me her attempts to find Atti after he ceased all contact with her. Despite what Atti tells people, he does not have a “shop”. At times in the past he used to have some workspace where he would actually do neon work.
But no more.
He also had no “home address” and anyone searching for him will eventually find his father in Akron Ohio. He has the same name. Linda found Attila Sr. and told him her story.
He was not surprised. He was not defensive. He apologized. He knew from previous experiences that his son had made mistakes and he just wrote it off to “that’s life” or something. But lately he was getting more calls and more angry people were contacting him looking for his son. And it was not just $100 here and there, it was for HUNDREDS and in some cases THOUSANDS of dollars. And it was not just one or two people, there were literally dozens of people contacting him constantly looking for his son.
At the same time over in the “Scooter” world, Atti was getting trashed by all the people that used to protect him. Apparently it was just a matter of time before you got screwed over by Atti and he had used up all his Microcar contacts and now was screwing over his long time Scooter friends.
So now I had to go back to Marilyn Felling and tell her that I had a bad feeling that she was not going to get her neon. She was unaware of any problems because everytime she emailed Atti to check on the Neon (that she had paid for in full), he replied and always with some sort of excuse that seemed valid.
•The neon tube supplier had shipped him the wrong color neon and was back ordered on the specific “red” she wanted.
•He had just moved to a “new shop” and would not have gas (needed to bend) or Internet for about a month!
The excuses were never his fault. It was always someone else who had caused him to fall behind.
Eventually he ceased contact with Marilyn Felling altogether.
Just like Linda, just like everyone else he owes.
At some point, Atti makes you feel like it is YOUR FAULT and you are the only one that he has ever had a problem with. So many people just keep quiet and chalk it up to bad luck.
There are still a few people that stand up for him and defend him.
“I got my neon” someone will say, or “I never had a problem with him!”
Well, years ago, he used to actually deliver what you ordered, so that is no surprise.
But that was then, this is now.
Others will say that it is not worth losing “a friend” over a few hundred dollars, or they hope he will help them find some elusive item they have been searching for.
These are the marks of good con man.
He screws you over and not only do you come back for more, but you recommend him to others!
-Jim Janecek
This is all the “known” contact info I have for ATTILA BETHLENFALVY :
phone: 216-392-2368 (it is a cell phone, he won’t answer it if he owes you money)
email1: goggomobils@yahoo.com
email2: GetBentNeonworks@gmail.com
web: www.MySpace.com/atti (he is on there all the time, goofing off with people who he has not ripped off…yet)
He “lives” in Cleveland Ohio, but he calls it “Thieveland”, how appropriate.
(this was originally published in MICROCAR NEWS #6 2007)
Additional Information added since the article was published:
Ladies: – Atti apparently likes to make friends so he can use your eBay account.
Why doesn’t he get his own eBay account? He was kicked off years ago, that’s why.
Once you are kicked off eBay, you are banned FOR LIFE.
Here are some previous eBay accounts that Atti used to use to sell stuff, click the links to see the feedback.
Notice any patterns? The first 2 accounts were his, the others were apparently “friend’s” accounts. Until they got suspended anyways. These are also not the only ones he has “used”.
goggovan
goggomobils
nasasurplus
rig510
here is an Interesting Thread from the ScooterBBS forum about another person that got snookered into allowing Atti to use their eBay account to sell stuff. (note that this is an archived forum discussion and ScooterBBS moved to a new forum format and lost all the names so everyone is called “Anonymous”)
And the Followup Thread (now a dead link) to the aforementioned Soap Opera. Handled very well by Phil of Cleveland Scooters.
But maybe you should read those threads before you let him use your eBay account to sell something…
Additional Information added since the article was published:
Apparently Atti likes to tell people he is going to SUE them and he is “good friends” with Bruce Weiner who will finance his Lawyerly pursuits. IT’S NOT TRUE!
Bruce Weiner has told me that he severed ties with Atti long ago and besides, he would never would have financed any crazy lawsuit that Atti might come up with.
The only reason he maintained any contact with Atti at all was to get all the NEON work that he had paid for
Additional Information added since the article was published:
Atti has posted on his MySpace page something about importing Mexican Police Motorcycles and he makes this claim:
“Go ahead and ask questions about shipping though, as I have some experience bringing containers of vehicles in from Europe and Scandinavia.”
funny thing about that quote. It is true!
What he does not mention is how he totally messed up the entire deal he had with the guy who shipped the stuff.
Atti told him he could deal with the US end of a shipping container that had some microcars and scooters from Sweden. When the container arrived, Atti let it sit there for THREE MONTHS! It racked up storage fees of about $8000, money he did not have. He had to go begging for help to get the container released and it got really complicated when he TRADED some of the contents for the $8000 needed to release the container. He totally screwed over the guy from Sweden who had shipped the stuff.
Do you really want to let Atti handle the shipping and paperwork for you? Go ahead, ask him some questions. Ask him where he got the $8000 to get the container back from Customs. Ask him why he let it sit there in the first place. The ask yourself why you would bother dealing with this jackass.
do you have any additional info that might help people find him to either get their Neon, their Scooter parts or their Money back? or maybe you have been ripped off as well?
Leave a comment. (if your comment contains a link, it might be held for moderation…)
January 18th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
here is an interesting link I ran across while looking up stuff on Atti:
http://www.midnitecrowproductions.com/personals/posts/07-09-19/51075.shtml
This guy is apparently a “volunteer” for rescuing dogs at this place:
http://www.neorescue.net/rescuevolunteers.php
and what happens when he gets hold of them? see first link above. Astonishing!
January 19th, 2009 at 1:18 am
This dirt bag also screwed me over. In the process I found through Ohio police he has some warrants so his time on the streets is limited. Major drug addict as well for what its worth
January 19th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
“Major drug addict as well for what its worth”
That is an interesting comment as for YEARS Atti would always be so proud of touting that he did not Drink or Smoke. Of course he never mentioned anything other than those 2 vices.
He did seem addicted to “something” though…
Someone contacted me privately to say that he was no longer in Ohio (geez, wonder why?) and was now in PA someplace last time they checked. I have nothing to back that up though.
January 20th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
I knew a bit of Atti, but I chose to give him the benefit of the doubt. He has owed me money (hundreds) from a deal that goes back years now, and the few hundred bucks was no biggie, I mean my existence is not in jeapardy, I just hate to see someone ruin themselves, and leave a path of dishonesty everywhere they go.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
HIS NEW ADDRESS
5310 HARMON AVE.
AUSTIN, TX 78751
he lives the 2nd story garage apartment
behind the house.
November 27th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
This guy is soo nasty.
he has now moved from the address above.
he is now living with a 40 year old chick in austin.
how fitting to find some desprate old chick who
has replace having 40 cats with ATTI. haha.
I believe her address is..
XXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX
or maybe you could give her a call..
(XXX-XXX-XXXX)
have a nice day.
I will keep you posted.
Your Lovely Lolita.
*editor’s note: I removed the address and phone number on this posting only because the person in question called and was very upset that it was made public. Since the info was not actually Atti’s contact info, I “XX”d it out.
HOWEVER, the woman I spoke with did not deny that Atti lives in Austin or that she did not know him. Her comments on the phone to me implied that she rented him a room and had no issues with him as a tenant.
November 30th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
He is a creepy stalker as well as everything else!!! He needs to spend time behind bars!!!
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:01 am
Just for the record Atti is 38 (at least) and I really don’t think 40 is old.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 am
I failed to mention that yes he is indeed a piece of crap, lying, cheating, sneaky swindler but above all he is extremely charming and very good at what he does. Hence all these very nice people being taken by him.
Best part of the whole thing is I think he believes his stories. Probably what makes him such a good con artist. He surrounds himself with good people, people that CAN be trusted then he drops the ax, ever so slowly.
BEWARE!
December 6th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I was talking about the 40 year old desprate chick he is living with.. thank you. not atti.
i know atti is 38. for the record.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Still does not add up to me how she is “old” for him. Plus she could be a very nice person who has not yet been screwed over.
December 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Thank you Lazlo. Yes Atti is 38, and for the record Atti is NOT living with me Ms. Lolita. It is my understanding that he is going to be recolcating within the next few months to marry his love interest. That is all I know.
If he is indeed guilty of these things, may it all catch up with him.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:49 am
That is “relocating” outside of the Austin area.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
yeah.. he told a (certain person) his *LOVE* intrest was completely bi-polar.
Where will they live? In ohio? where atti has made tons of enemies
and owes the world their thousands of dollars he stole.
I spoke with a certain person that told me atti was NOT welcome back in that state.
Maybe a he will buy a shipping container, rentavate into a lovely house? perhaps.
so his bride can purchase more tattoos? They can live happily ever after.
Or what about his SON.. who got ditched like thousands of dollars…
it does’nt matter if your related or not. atti does not discriminate.
Love the fact Mrs.. excuse me. Ms. S. has spoken on atti’s behalf..
seems she has more balls to tell the lovely lolita what she thinks.
again speaks volumes.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Really do wish atti well.
just want him the hell away from me
Lolita.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Lazlo says, “Plus she could be a very nice person who has not yet been screwed over.”
Lolita says, ” When a FRIEND of MINE tried to WARN her not to give him money.
What did she do? get all defensive. block the person cause she was CRAZY.
All this 8th grade bull. She is NOT a nice person. she made a judgement
against someone NOT knowing all the facts. Only based on what HURT atti said.
This guy has to know this is gonna bite him on the ass wherever he goes.
LIFE LESSON atti. Be honest. Did you know this website was put up
for the sheer fact, you hurt people. They don’t want their money back.
They want you to grow up and STOP hurting people.
That is what makes you a lowlife in my book.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Seems to me this Lolita person is absolutely CRAZY! Thinks she’s a bit resentful that Atti shows no interest in her. I think it’s childish to go to theses extremes, but there are some nut cases in this world. Lolita gets the gold medal. Hurray! It’s funny how she wants him to “get the hell away” but continuously tries to get his attention anyway she can. The crazy role suits her well!
December 8th, 2009 at 8:41 am
You know…
This Public form…. CONMAN.
it was all my idea. i had nothing better to do.
i forced all these people to say bad things against atti.
how dare i.
your right … it’s all a plot to get atti to come back to me.
cause i miss taking care of him. i miss giving him money.
i miss his verbal abuse and his usage of foul language.
tell him to call me.. so i can give him some money. ok?
haha. your the chick who fell of the crazywagon…
wonderbread.
December 8th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
and wondergirl’s point is….
no one knows.
and atti is still a thief. infact i called the police today and reported my dad’s binoculars, missing.
they oddly came up missing, when my car was conviently parked in atti’s old driveway.
he told me.. that someone broke in. but nothing else was taken. there were 100 dollar .. inline skates in there. of course.. there was no forced entry. cause the theif could use his MAJIC POWERS.
to unlock the door. we will see what the cops say about this.
they should be calling me soon.
looks like Tanja may not have her white wedding.. cause atti maybe in jail!
December 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
the dealo is..
those were’nt mine.
They were MY DAD’S.
so now, he is pissed.
listen to lolita children…
CRIME NEVER PAYS!!!!!!!
NEVER.
you wind up like wonderbread..
ohh, i love him. he won’t brush his teeth.
he won’t pay his child support.
he won’t get a real job!
he screws everyone over..
But he is my friend.
he loves me. he will take care of me when i’m old and grey.
he will wipe my face off, when my cambell’s soup falls down my shirt.
then he will take a pic of it. and show all his friends what old boobie’s
i have. OMG. this is fun! atti had so many pics of random women on his computar it was scary.
YOU MIGHT BE ON THERE. MY GRANDMA MIGHT BE ON THERE.
I think atti is in to old chicks as well. (so i have seen) not talking about ms s here either.
Lolita says… Definition of atti.
Makes for great drunken stories.
Leaves bad taste in your mouth.
Makes you wanna become a lesbian.
Amen the end.
December 8th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
First of all Crissy/Lolita, learn how to spell. The only person who will be faced with legal problems is you my dear. (Thank God my uncles are police officers.) So yes, you will be contacted by the police. I’m sure “daddy” will love to hear and see what his Christian daughter has been up to. Maybe I’ll even contact him myself (xxxxxxxxxx)
editor: post personal info again not related to finding ATTI and you will be banned
Don’t tempt me! Im glad Atti and I are not the only people whose name you slander. The list goes on. I’m glad that they are willing to provide evidence to support your absurd behavior. (be query of your friends, because they don’t have a problem going against you). Is this karma? HMMMM? I find it a bit humorous that you have all these aliases. Now tell me crissy martin….Who is really the CON here???
I leave you with this…”Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” Luke 6:31
December 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Lolita-
This is the last you will hear from me, but I know it will not be the last time I hear from you!
Good luck with your future endeavors!
I will still continue to pray for you because Jesus said “LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO HATE YOU, BLESS THOSE WHO CURSE YOU, PRAY FOR THOSE WHO MISTREAT YOU”
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:17-21).
Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing (1 Peter 3:9).
Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble (1 John 2:9-10).
I hope I was an example to you and that you have learned from me
December 8th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
“Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath,”
what a crock of shit. this is exactly what Atti takes advantage of. No one does anything because they think he will change. He won’t change. Why should he bother? There are untold numbers of people willing to take him in and fall for his BS.
also- Lolita: you are not going to get Atti in jail for stealing some binoculars. dream on.
Also- as a heterosexual male, I have not found that Atti makes me want to become a lesbian.
Also- is Tanya a Mastiff?
December 8th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Omg.
really? did you just quote scripture? what about the scripture that says Don’t mark your body?
Leviticus 19:28 – “Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.” (KJV
i guess tanja’s bible does’nt have that page.
seriously, are you gonna get your uncle on me? (GROW UP!)
since it’s way out of his jurisdiction.. pretty sure he can’t touch me.
you try and call any of my relatives (like the big girl you are) i will have a case on you so fast against harrassment. ( promise
also i have emails, where your becoming quite a little stalker,
you need to let atti handle his own problems. Maybe this is just a taste of your life with atti. sad.
i was simply stating facts that have happen to me with atti to warn others.
and here comes jealousy.
Who is JESUS Tonja? What role does he play in the bible?
If we call ourselves CHRISTIANS.. should we not seek righteousness
and love at the same time? GOD gave authority to CHRIST.
People like you make me sick… and are the REASON
why others give up on GOD, you use GOD to suit your own selfish needs.
Did i say anything hateful?
no. slanderous? no. i can use my judgement.
I mentioned someone look like a certain person.. how is that slanderous?
you have a problem with it .. take it up with your mother.
and the fact sailors are the only people i know
who have tatts and men.. well that is just.. me calling it like i see it!”sorry you took offense.
i don’t feel it has caused me to hate anyone.
ATTI is causing trouble for his own head.
I’m pretty sure… these people who have gotten stiffed
massive amounts of money
can press charges on atti… at any time… if they want too.
I believed atti when he told me certain things.
then i was slowly shown by his actions, he was
defiant against his own words.
this has’nt stopped.. cause what does atti do when he faces a problem?
RUN AWAY.
I’m sure if he would have shown some balls.. stepped up like a man.
And made whatever attempt to show these nice people he was truly sorry.
Made atleast an attempt to pay them back! they would’nt have been so rough with him..
But the truth is.. your precious atti does’nt give a dam about anybody but himself!
and if spelling is the only thing i should be concerned about…
i’m doing pretty good.
December 8th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
i do care for him…
If i love him, I am gonna want what is best for him?
He has alot of growing up to do.
He is 38. not much time left.
December 8th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
OMG!!! I bet Atti is lovin all this attention. Really who gives a flying f**k about him anyways!?! We all know he is a weirdo, liar, user, conman, low life dead-beat dad, stalker, drug addict, and a homo just to name a few. This man is the worst person I have EVER met. Anyone who REALLY knows him knows I’m telling the truth!!! Let Atti fight his own battles!
Wondergirl: I would be doing the same thing if I was Lolita…I mean the dude has done some serious shit to me and I would love to make him pay!!! If I had seen this website at the time it happened to me I would have said and done way worse. If your his friend tell him to brush his teeth and visit the dentist!
December 9th, 2009 at 12:36 am
you ladies want to have a pissing contest with each other, take it elsewhere, this is not about you two (or three…)
Wondergirl got banned for saying “bye” and then coming right back as a sock puppet claiming to be someone else.
Keep the comments about Atti and not catty snide remarks about each other.
(some comments have been deleted, so if the remaining ones don’t make sense that would explain some of it)
December 9th, 2009 at 12:37 am
the only big asshole i ever saw was atti
Dog fuc*er!
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 am
Lolita,
I could not agree more that is scum. It’s terrible if he hurt you. But you are in a long line of people he has messed with both emotionally and financially. There is NO fixing Atti. He is troubled and it’s very, very deep-seated.
It’s just he’s so damn good at disguising who he really is.
I wish you and all his victims the best.
To those who have not fallen victim as of yet, run.
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Found out his time is short.
He has a warrant for his arrest.
It’s ALL gonna catch up with him.
It would be cool if it happened oddly enough at CHRISTMAS time.
Merry Christmas .. ATTI.
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
So apparently info has confirmed
that atti is spending some time in his old homestead
of cleveland this holiday season…
beware.. if you live there you might run into him.
(yuck!)
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
although …
i am quite confident you would slide right past his greasy skin onto
whatever object catches your fall
ewwwww.. I wanna get tested .. like now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
ohh another thing…
if atti honored any other woman…
maybe that other (wo)MAN might get him to delete the pic’s
of me and atti having sex!
cause i highly REGRET ever allowing him to do that!
just an fyi… ( sence he is such a righteous man )
December 31st, 2009 at 1:13 am
What county would this warrant happen to be in.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:17 am
Hi heard his fiance called off the engagement. She’s finding out the real him. After only spending two days with him!
December 31st, 2009 at 9:19 am
I believe the arrest warrant is in Lake County
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Ok.. so cleveland is tanja.
she apparently made up the whole her and atti were getting married
to get back at me? she went as far to call my house, to talk to me.
when i basically gave her instructions to EMAIL me. I suppose
she was gonna get me to talk bad about atti cause i have’nt said enough on the board?
I suppose atti thought he was gonna hurt me some more on top of being a douche bag,
cheating me out of money and stealing things that don’t belong to him.
OMG…
I am completely embarrassed i ever met this person.
Just an FYI.. anyone connected to or hanging with atti
(not playing with a FULL DECK!) if you know what i mean.
(strange.)
BEWARE!!!
THEY ARE ALL LIARS.
i have posted this link on my myspace
so that everyone will be forwarned
HAVE A NICE DAY!
January 27th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Hey Jim, Can’t find your contact info on here, but I wanted to communicate with you discretely. Can you please e-mail me? Thank you.
April 28th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
I know where this person is staying.
Contact me @.
cassidycane@hotmail.com
May 19th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Does anybody know if Atti was actually arrested and incarcerated or if he’s on any kind of probation? There’s a whole lits of people here in the Cleveland/Akron area that would like to have a word with him about criminal and civil matters.
If anybody is interested I have a pretty good collection of information gathered from local Ohio legal systems relating to traffic violations, stolen property being sold on EBAY, evictions, … Fun stuff! No hearsay second hand info. I know a number of effected individuals personally.
The guy tried to sell me a Goggomobil scooter of questionable origin, left it at my house due to the fact that he was being evicted from his studio space, refused to pick it up, and then tried to play this game about having me arrested for being in possession of stolen property. The local police told me to just keep it, I was a nice guy, I left it with a mutual friend. It was all a bluff, he kept it going for months, or so he thought. One call to the police made it pretty clear as to exactly who and what I was dealing with. He had me going for a couple of days though. I’m just amazed at the number of other people here in the area with far worse encounters to share.
There is a whole lot more to this story involving social engineering, deliberately destroying friendships, and fictional personality/history generation but we’d be here for weeks detailing the whole account of my miserable dealings with Atti.
Yes I really hope I never see Atti again. The last time I ran into him he tried to sucker punch me in a bar in front of his date…tough guy… That didn’t work out quite the way he intended. It was pretty amusing actually. Well I hope he’s rotting I prison some where. I can’t think of anyone more deserving. The previous comment about “Atti can’t be fixed”… That much is true. Anything that comes out of his mouth, assume it’s a lie.
May 19th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Last I heard he was still in the Austin TX area driving a Volvo Station Wagon that he ripped off from a dealer he owes neon to (surprise!). The car is apparently not registered but he stuck his OHIO plates on it from another car.
May 22nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
I also dug up another interesting document. Apparently our little friend skipped out on a sizable loan. Akron Ohio case #00CVF07763. He has a filing against him from suit brought by Holy Family Parma Federal for the sum of $6,707.63 plus $3,293.49 in accrued interest. It this was filed in Akron in 2005, but the actual suit and judgment were from back in 2001 in Cuyahoga County.
I’m sure this is him because his parent’s local address is on the court documents.
Just FYI
Holy Family Parma Federal Credit Union
7367 York Road
Parma, Ohio 44130
440-842-1620
If you’re doing any kind of background search be sure to use the various forms of Atti’s name, he takes advantage of ambiguity, seems he freely uses these three. Attila, Atti, Atti S.
May 27th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
I have the plate info on the car.
If anyone needs it
June 7th, 2010 at 10:46 am
He screwed me over really good, and is still at it – selling cars THAT DON’T BELONG TO HIM (I’m sure he’s got a great story to explain how he’s “brokering” the deals or something, but good luck getting your car after wiring Atti a deposit): http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=9884618
October 21st, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Attila contacted me to let me know he had a car I was looking for,
a 1960 Cadillac ambulance.
He said he was in Austin but could stop and meet me here in Dallas to collect the money
then proceed to New Mexico where it was located to move it.
He would then truck it back for me, for another fee.
I gave him the money ($3,000) and took a photo of his Ohio driver’s License.
This was on 08/30/10
I have not heard from him in a while and I can not get ahold of him.
Here is the info I have collected on him.
Attila S. Bethlenfalvy
1976 W 44th St.
Cleveland OH 44113
Ohio License RQ336506
DOB: 02/19/71
Austin Address:
5310 HARMON AVE.
AUSTIN, TX 78751
emails:
getbentneonworks@gmail.com
goggomobils@yahoo.com
http://www.myspace.com/atti
Phones:
512-568-2884
216-392-2368
If you have any further information for me please contact me at videobob@hotmail.com
October 21st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
File a police report in Texas if you can.
What is he driving these days? That Volvo wagon that has expired OHIO plates on it that is not registered?
He’s got your money, he has no reason to pick up the phone when you call.
October 21st, 2010 at 3:23 pm
A message to ATTILA.
If you read this and you have not got in contact with me yet, please do.
If you contact me and we can work something out or if there was an issue beyond your control
we can take care of it. I am easy to work with.
However, if you are flat out ripping me off and do not contact me I will be forced to take
action.
Remember I told you that I work for Pantera?
I also run all of Vinnie’s social networks, (myspace/facebook, etc.)
I will put out an APB to all of our millions of fans to be on the look out for you
with a reward for your whereabouts.
I have a TON of contacts in Austin with a million tattoo artists, etc.
Not to mention I would get in touch with any car/bike/scooter builder
and neon supply.
I the meantime I will have the police contacted.
I have a photo of your driver’s license and video from the security camera in my office
of our transaction and of course all of our emails.
So I am begging you to please contact me ASAP.
Thanks!
- Bob
October 21st, 2010 at 3:39 pm
He was riding in a black Volvo wagon, I remember talking to him about it because we have the sedan version of it, but I didn’t get the plates.
Does anyone have the plate number?
If anyone wants a photo of his drivers license, please email me at videobob@hotmail.com
October 21st, 2010 at 3:43 pm
don’t beg Bob. Atti should be the only one begging.
and don’t say you are going to do things but not follow through. Atti is used to getting verbally threatened and then nothing ever happens! He screwed over someone in the Hell’s Angels and they eventually gave up on him.
There are people that will hide him. (until he screws them over)
If he is reading this, he is giggling like a little girl right now. That is what he does when he is hiding from people.
If he got in touch with you from posting on a Professional Cars forum or something, go warn the other users about him. At least do that much.
I put up this page to warn others but people STILL deal with him and get screwed.
He is flat out ripping you off. There are NO issues out of his control. Did you not read anything on this page?
Nothing is ever his fault. Nothing!
File a police report.
October 21st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
My girlfriends Mom happens to work for the State Attorney Generals office.
I will give all of his information to them and see what they can do.
In the meantime I will try to get some help from our millions of fans who
read our blogs, etc. See if someone can divulge where to find him.
Hopefully Attila will contact me and work things out before some of my
contacts find him. We have very dedicated fans and friends.
October 21st, 2010 at 4:51 pm
He has been living in Austin TX for some time now.
He no longer has any residence in Ohio. One reason is that there is a warrant out for him in Lake County I believe for not paying child support. Also- he has burned through all his friends there.
So by law he should have a TEXAS driver’s license now and the plates on his car should be TEXAS plates, not Ohio ones.
The Volvo wagon most likely has Ohio tags that are registered to another vehicle (another Volvo). The car should be impounded if he is stopped. Get the plate number.
by the way if you think maybe something “happened” to him, check his MySpace page. It shows when he last logged in. That would be…today.
so he is definitely ignoring you and he has computer access. He has no excuses.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
UPDATE:
Using my girlfriend’s phone with an area code from Minnesota,
I gave him a call and he answered right away.
He told me he had JUST got in from working, he had been swamped with projects lately
and had also lost his phone or something….was trying to get caught up.
I told him about THIS webpage as well as others I had found on him and that it had me very
concerned. He reassured me that the car was real and was still in it’s location in NM
and that he would work quickly with me to get it shipped to me.
Maybe I am an optimist but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt right now
and hope that this was indeed a real deal and that the 1960 Cadillac Ambulance I bought from
him is sitting in this guys yard in Farmington, NM and I can have it picked up and shipped to me
as promised.
It would be very unfortunate if this did turn out to be a scam because I am a serious buyer
with awesome connections and could send him a lot of business.
I will be happy to give updates as they develop.
Thanks.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Well Mr Serious Buyer with Awesome Connections who took a photo of Attila Bethlenfalvy’s Driver’s License:
When were you supposed to originally take delivery of this vehicle?
You are coming up to 8 weeks now.
Atti knows how to string people along for a very long time.
How long are you prepared to wait? Better get comfortable.
October 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
We did not have a set delivery time.
The car has been sitting in a field for about 30+ years so it is well planted.
We discussed having it winched onto a hauler and brought to me but it is mostly
my fault for not being on the ball.
I let some time go by, waiting for Attila to call me back.
When I did start to inquire with him I got no response for a while.
I emailed, texted, called with no response.
It was then I did a google search on his name simply searching for alternative means
of communications, (other emails, phones, etc.)
That’s when I found THIS page.
Well, after finally talking to Attila, alerting him of this web page and he says he looked at it
(and told me he did not appreciate what I wrote)
I was given a name and address to where the car is,
I have left a message but have not actually talked to the person yet so we will see how that goes…
I was also called by the auto shipper who tells me he was given his instructions by Attilla to
pick up the car in NM and bring it to me, the entire transaction is done COD which suits me best.
In Attila’s defense, I was never denied this information, I simply never asked for it until now.
Maybe I am an optimist but I think Attila will come through for me and I will get the car.
I urged Attila to try to work out his previous debts and issues with previous people to get pages
like this removed to clear his name and conscious.
I don’t know what he is truly guilty of or what the true situations were I only know about my
dealings. The delays in this transaction are mostly my fault, what was not my fault was his
lack of communication with me.
I will of course report the outcome to you, sparing no details.
Thanks.
October 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Yep that’s Atti. Making you feel like its all YOUR FAULT.
October 28th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Videobob, your situation is textbook Atti. DON’T be manipulated by his routine! He’s a con man extraordinaire. He will only do what is necessary to preserve or advance his own interests, and yes as the administrator points out he is quite adept at stringing people along. Your best bet is to get your money back and keep your friends as far away from him as possible. The guy is NOT to be trusted. If he’s dodging you and your attempts at communication it’s deliberate. I’ve been down this road as have a number of other people here in the Cleveland/Akron/Canton area that I’m in direct contact with.
GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!!!
October 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Last time I heard, he was staying with some people in Austin.
7409 Wild Onion Dr. Austin,Texas 78744.
I believe his plate numbers for his Ohio Plates are DRD-4579
The owner of the Black Volvo is more than likely the lady who rents the house.
I believe Atti’s Volvo is Red. He rents a room there, that’s all.
Goodluck in your attempts to collect your money.
Why you would’nt have a written a contract with that amount of money involved, is beyond me.
October 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
If I remember correctly he was driving a maroon Volvo when he fled Cleveland.
Videobob, if you have access to the State Attorney General’s office I would run his name and past addresses through the system. Make sure to look for criminal and civil cases. He was dodging a couple of warrants in Northeast Ohio before he left the area. I don’t know if they were ever resolved, we’re all just happy he’s gone.
If you need a list of past addresses or legal issues to get you on his trail let me know. I can help.
October 30th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Atti’s Maroon Volvo exploded in his driveway. It took him 4 1/2 months to get a deal together
from a really nice older man at a Volvo place, whom thought he got ripped off by Atti too.
I don’t know if Atti’s luck is just shit?
Then he freaks out and does’nt know what to do ..
or he just plays it off like good old Budda will take care of him in sunshine?
Not sure.
I think Atti needs to learn to communicate and lovely boards like these
would be banshied. Because he is insensitive to others feelings.
He gets put through HELL. It’s SELF INFLICTED HELL.
I hate that new people are speaking up and finding this board.
It bothers me that ATTI has not changed his ways of dealings.
Believe me when i say KARMA is a BITCH. I think Atti has trouble sleeping at night.
Anyway. Happy Halloween.
Pretty soon .. he will be calling on AMBIEN.
October 30th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Profile of the Sociopath
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Cunning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Other Related Qualities:
1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
3. Authoritarian
4. Secretive
5. Paranoid
6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
7. Conventional appearance
8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim’s life
10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim’s affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)
Sound like anybody we know?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:23 am
Kiddo’s …
Lolita has found out she has H.P.V.
Not sure about the LEVEL of virus this is.
Not sure how or where i contracted it.
Be Safe.
Be Aware. =)
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I was actually going to call Atti today – I’ve been in email contact with him about a few 50′s Cadillacs he supposedly owns… I guess I’ll pass.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:19 pm
I adore the fact Atti thinks i’m lying.
Why i would be so cold hearted to lie about something such as this is beyond me.
Nor would i waste my time.
There is no one who benefits from such a post as this.
Please be careful. Take care.
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:04 am
Atti does not own any Cadillacs. He is a nomadic drifter who takes pics of cars and then tries to sell them to strangers over the internet. He owns nothing. He does not even legally own the car he drives.
Anecdote about how Atti dodges people:
Back when he DID actually have some vehicles in his possession in Cleveland, he “sold” them to someone and insisted on a deposit in advance. He got the deposit and agreed to meet the guy at a certain time in a couple of days.
Well, the guy picking up the stuff knew Atti and got to the meeting spot about 4 hours early. As he drove around the block looking for a place to park he got a call from Atti. Atti said he could not make the meetup as he had to go out of town on a job or something suddenly. As the guy pulls around the corner he sees a 7-11 and he notices a car in the parking lot that looks like Atti’s car. There is a guy on a pay phone outside that looks a lot like Atti.
The guy continues to talk to Atti on the phone while he drives into the 7-11 parking lot and proceeds to block his car. He then gets out and walks up to the guy on the pay phone and it is indeed Atti trying again to weasel out with someone’s money. They guy ended up getting his stuff but only because he happened to be in the right place at the right time and knew what to expect.
Anyone else who assumes Atti will follow through will find themselves screwed.
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:21 pm
After Atti was kicked out of the factory attic off of Clark Ave in Cleveland for not paying his rent or bills his collection of vehicles got pretty strewn. I know he had a number of inoperable scooters and micro cars in bits and pieces stored there but none of us ever saw a single car. He always claimed they were stored all over the Cleveland area in friend’s garages.
I ended up storing a scooter I didn’t want after it was left on my porch with the apparent intent that I was to purchase it. No title, no record of existence, no proof of ownership… You can read my first posting on here for the details of how that went for him.
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Well, I have been in contact with the owner of the car I bought.
I am sure that Attila brokered the deal and pocketed some money and that is fine, that is business and I do it all the time. I am working with the owner of the car to get it picked up from him.
I do know Attila was dodging me, not sure why, maybe he was just busy, maybe not.
I am someone with really good karma and I rarely get ripped off.
I do business all the time buying and selling cars and have never had a problem and I deal with some pretty high ticket items, cars and cash transfers in the $40K range.
Attila seemed to really know his stuff about these cars and told me that he owned a bunch of them with the intent on fixing them up. So, who knows?
When I get the car in hand I will let everyone know how that turned out.
Thanks for everyone’s help.
November 17th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Final update:
The car I bought through Attila was delivered tonight.
It is what he said it was.
The price of the delivery was a good bargain.
So I am still 50/50 on my final opinion of the transaction in that, although things worked out
for me and I was delivered what I was promised I do have to wonder if that only happened
because of my tenacity. I think someone less aggressive might be sitting on their thumb
and cursing him.
There is no doubt we was ducking me for a while because I called and called, texted, emailed
and got nothing although I know he was getting online from his Myspace log on’s,
It was only after I borrowed a friends out of state cell phone to call him that he answered.
After telling him about this website, my displeasure with not being contacted and reminding
him what a valuable customer I am and that I had all his person information
I think I got some better service.
So all I can say is that that it all worked out in the end.
I think if Attila learns anything from this I hope it is to not let things like this happen
and to try to rectify problems with people who will continue to slander him.
If I learned anything it is not to be shy about asking for personal information, receipts and contracts
and doing a little bit of research. A quickie google of his name would have revealed the pages like
this one and I might have proceeded with the sale on COD instead.
In the end I am a trusting guy and I know my Karma is good and things usually work out for me
so I was not to worried about it.
Thanks to all who helped me through this and thanks to Attila for completing the sale as promised.
- Bob
November 18th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I know as a fact that Atti sold the red volvo and is driving a black one. Also, he is not living at the last address posted and is living near the UT campus with his girlfriend since about June. Good luck to all in your attempts to contact him. I have yet to get a response from him after numerous tries.
November 24th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Videobob Says:
“So I am still 50/50 on my final opinion of the transaction in that, although things worked out
for me and I was delivered what I was promised I do have to wonder if that only happened
because of my tenacity. I think someone less aggressive might be sitting on their thumb
and cursing him.”
I would imagine that the existence of this page and the open sharing of information has put a lot of pressure on our little friend to make good on your transaction, which is to say he has a need to PROVE that he’s not a scam artist and this is giving him a very public forum with which to do that.
As I’ve said before, Atti ONLY does what’s in his best interest and this situation definitely put him in a corner. My caution to anyone reading this page is to look at the BULK of the complaints against Atti before buying into the idea that one successfully completed transaction exonerates him of being a very skillful con man.
December 6th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Nice Site I have been looking for Atti for atleast 6-7 years He ripped me of for a Goggo Scooter with Master Sidecar, got all the excuses too. Austin is not to far from me, so maybe I will go look him up
Mike
December 13th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Atti is in Longview, TX helping his uncle. His uncle is a very good guy, honest and straight. He is trying to help Atti get straightened out. His uncle has the cars.
December 13th, 2010 at 9:25 am
His “Uncle” is going to find out what happens when he runs out of cars.
Everyone who has tried to “get Atti straightened out” gets fucked over in the end.
Ask his brother Aaron.
January 6th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Here’s Atti’s phone number: 512.568.2884
He is not living at 5310 Harmon – I went by there, and the current tenants said that he moved awhile ago.
Anyone know his uncle’s contact info in Longview? A friend was looking at getting one of the cars from there, but backed out of the deal after getting the run-around from Atti (and Atti threw a temper tantrum, claiming that my friend – a pastor – was not a man of his word).
January 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Reliable sources tell me he is still in the Southern part of Austin.
Del Valle, Texas
January 17th, 2011 at 6:50 am
I recently contacted Attila with the following message:
You said:
“I’ll supply a correct carb and headlight rings, air cleaner if the Caddy guy here in TX has one. (He has to check.) I can also include ’61 commercial riveted wheels if a buyer isn’t going aftermarket.”
I still need this stuff and any glass I can get.
What can you do for me?
So this was his reply:
“Bob, that was before you off the handle by adding fuel to an old fire; completely unwarranted.
You stated that you wouldn’t “leave me out to dry” – yet you did. You had no business posting my private phone number, which is still up (now twice). I told you anything posted would be near impossible to retract, you thought otherwise.
Here’s the trade off: Negative postings about me removed (including number) for the carb and headlight rings. That puts us back closer to the original deal, as you did not want the wheels stating that the car wasn’t going to be accurate and those were ’61 anyway (which have since sold and shipped to RI). Takes gall to shit spew and still expect more from someone. If you aren’t willing to help correct what you started, I will not be guilted into assisting you further.
As for any glass? You may have unwittingly shot yourself in the foot. The person willing to help out in NY read what you wrote on that page and has since said he has none to spare. Wasn’t the case beforehand. I gave him your contact information middle of November when last he and I spoke if he changed his mind.
-Atti”
So I replied…
“I only went off the handle because you were totally dodging me for months, avoiding my phone calls, my emails, my texts.
You claimed that you had no internet or phone although I could see you logging into your Myspace daily and only after I called
you from a different number did you answer.
I only got some action out of you once I started posting on the website.
Obviously I am not the only person out there who has had problems with you otherwise there would not be SEVERAL
websites dedicated to telling people that you don’t deliver as promised.
Now, unfortunately I can not remove comments left on the forum.
It doesn’t have the ability to edit.
However I can ADD to it.
So tell me, which would like me to add, your choice, pick number one or number two:
#1:
“Attilla came through for me and delivered everything he promised to me.
I believe that our misunderstanding was just miscommunication but he made up for it and helped
me with everything I needed. We completed our business deal and even helped me with some extra
parts that I needed. I will definitely consider doing business with him again!”
- or -
#2:
“Atti did just what you all said he would do.
He blamed me for all the problems and made excuses as to why he couldn’t deliver the things he promised me
for the money I paid him. He gave me lots of empty promises and I feel if it had not been for this website and my
constant threats I might have never seen the car I purchased!
Let’s all do what ever we can to make sure he never does business with anyone ever again!!!”
Your choice dude.
All I want is to do good business.
I want what I was promised and the opportunity to do good business.
That’s it.
That’s how karma, feedback and reputation works.
- Bob”
So he replied…
“Number one is not an option Bob. Why? Because Jim will won’t allow that post to last. He has deleted every positive post about me to date. Yours would be no different and I am far from naive to think otherwise.
Many have stood up for me on that very page. Didn’t see any of them though, did you Bob? Of course you failed to factor that in. That’s Jim’s little pony show that he gets off on. Doesn’t matter that any issues are in my past – and solely in my past. Just takes one person – like yourself – to stir unnecessarily and occasionally before heaps of unknown keyboard commandos spew shit forth.
Btw, I haven’t logged into myspace daily for well over a year. Bit of a stretch. Also, your memory is off about my responding as a result of your posting. You mentioned it in our phone conversation. Had I been privy to it beforehand, cash would have been back in your hand and the Futura would have gone to Keith in Kansas City. That simple. That’s karma, feedback, and business as you put it.
Seems your only intent is to drag my name through the mud further. You can’t edit but Jim can.
-Atti”
So my final reply was….
“I’m not looking to drag your name through any mud.
I only want the things I was promised.
I simply asked you if you were going to give me the other things you promised and help me with my parts,
instead you made a bunch of excuses as to why you can’t/won’t and brought up this little website about you.
BTW, the only reason anyone would find this website is if they were searching for you and doing some background checks.
Bottom line is, if you stop fucking people over, they will stop LOOKING for you and then they will stop finding that fucking website.
If you had simply answered my calls and said, “yes Bob, here is the guys number, I will make sure you get your car”.
I would have been satisfied.
I would have hired the driver to bring the car and everything would have been great….
instead, you ignored me…that is until I let you know I was onto you and tricked you by calling with another number.
Well, I guess I’ll report back to the website and blog everything that has transpired thus far.
If you want the blogs to change then start doing things differently.
- VB”
January 17th, 2011 at 9:21 am
If the way you continue to treat people is the same. Not being there to discuss concerns or
needs in a timely fashion, despite the situation being OUT- OF- YOUR- CONTROL. How does that keep your new future from becoming your old past? The OLD FIRE as he put it.
You still need to communicate with people about what’s going on and how your trying to stay on top of it for them. So it brings peace of mind. It’s how you handle ANY good buisness.
VideoBob,
Just be glad you did’nt get royally screwed over, as many who have dealt with Atti have.
Like poor Beth in Austin whom he tried working for. She had a neon sign company there. She sent him 5 grand to complete his move to Austin. He wound up spending all of it on legal trouble he had when trying to leave from Ohio.
Do you know who gave him the money to get down to Texas? Me.
I was supposed to be paid back. I’ve never seen a dime.
I’m a single mother of two. I really can’t afford to take care of a grown ass man.
The whole 5 months i was dealing with him. There were weeks he would’nt have any food in the house. I’m sure his plenty of fish account sufficed in taking care of his belly for an evening.
Cause that’s what he did. When he screwed poor Tony over. Tony was his landlord in Austin
when he lived on Harmon street. He was under the impression he would be recieving 1000.00 in rent a month, which Atti NEVER could come up with. Playing on the net in car fourms all day in his p.j’s and running around taking pics at wal-mart consumed this grown mans time.
He still has stuff that he owns in Ohio from ill communication with a supposed friend named James, who was under the impression that Atti was suppose to be paying a small amount of rent to him.
When the money was never presented to James …. Atti made up some excuse that they had a deal
going where Atti was to Dog sit …. for room and board? Atti claims, he did’nt owe it to him. I don’t know how true this is. Seeing as You never know what to believe with him.
Some people/friends of his will never speak up on the truth of Atti’s dealings for fear of making an enemy. I admit. When i spoke up, I saw the true crazy come out in him. He had strange women i never met and never talked to calling my house, making up shit. Just being mean spirited, slandering my name in front of them. Which is a double edged sword, huh Atti?
Come on! Let’s play grown ups here. He has this website cause that’s a part of him. It’s how he deals with things.
I would not try to lick his ass, to get the rest of your car parts though. Atti might just decide to give you a taste of his dick. That’s Atti’s mentality. Believe me when i say, just be thankful and walk away. You can’t erase what’s been done. Atti prides himself on making you feel that, when you try to make him happy and help him, he always leaves you with a butt ache. Then denies ever fucking you in the ass.
You just have to accept that’s how he is and what’s done is done. Make peace with it and move on!
Hope your day goes well.
Peace or lots of cops.
My thoughts …
or what i’m lead to believe cause i can’t see diffrently.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:47 am
There have been no “positive posts” about Atti to delete.
Video Bob got his car though. That post is still up.
Don’t you think it would have been deleted if I delete all “positive” posts?
Atti lies again. Don’t fall for it.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
I can’t believe it!!!
He had a very public opportunity to PROVE that he could actually complete an honest transaction and he DIDN’T.
WOW!!!
Epic fail!!!
It’s like commuting Seppuku live on the internet with your ego instead of a tanto.
January 19th, 2011 at 3:54 am
Attila had said, “Btw, I haven’t logged into myspace daily for well over a year. Bit of a stretch”…
however when ever I check out http://www.myspace.com/atti it shows that he has in fact logged in that day or sometimes the day before.
Just another lie.
I am totally done with this whole deal and this dude.
I tried to give this guy not only an opportunity to repair his reputation but also to do some good business with me, a serious buyer who could have made him some good money, even if only as a finder’s fee. Instead he wanted to play games.
Hopefully this website will prevent someone else from having to deal with him.
If I had simply searched out his name I would have found this, it wasn’t until after I searched his
legal name and license that I found this.
So hopefully the next guy is as smart as I am!!!
Thanks!!!
January 30th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Just for the record …
I never claimed to be in a relationship with this dude.
His feelings towards me may have lead him to believe whatever.
But the sheer fact i contacted this board was because he ripped me off on
money he owed me.
He is a genuine embarrassment.
February 26th, 2011 at 9:01 am
He was spotted back in Cleveland last night at Touch Nightclub at the corner of W25th and Lorain ave. An here we thought the cancer had gone away.
February 28th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I have been looking for Attila.
If anyone knows of a good address please e-mail me with it.
Thanks
February 28th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
I have been looking for Attila.
If anyone knows of a good address please e-mail it to me at kwebster@lakecountyohio.gov.
Thanks
February 28th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
you will never find a “good” address. Attila does not stay in one place for long.
He knows there are people looking for him. Put a bounty out on him. Someone will drag him back to Lake County OH for you then.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:47 am
he scammed me in a car deal. i did not know about him until reading this info.
i had filed a police report and a warrant out for his arrest in texas, but he just moved again back to ohio.
let’s find this guy.
another site reports he is back in cleveland, ohio as of the last week of february.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 pm
He is back in Cleveland for sure. That’s verified. Scott you might want to email Kathleen who posted her contact information earlier. How much money was involved in your incident? He usually tries to keep it under a felony, that’s been his standard M.O. for years. If you have a felony charge you might get an extradition warrant, especially if people speak up from around the country who have additional warrants or lawsuits filed. A little legal co-ordination of the Atti affected community would go a long way toward getting him picked up.
Hell you’re in Texas, just send Chuck Norris to come get him.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
don’t know the story behind it, but Atti got BANNED from the Jalopy Journal HAMB (Hokey Ass Message Board) hot rod site. He posted tons of cars for sale on there (reading through the threads on this board, I suspect that they were his uncle’s? He probably screwed some people over on them). That might explain his exodus from Texas.
Funny – I remember when the Jockey Journal (motorcycle sister-site to the Jalopy Journal) BANNED him a few years back.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
In looking at cars for sale on the HAMB, I see ads from SLED – I guess he was Atti’s buddy in Mexico or something (Atti posted ads for him from Texas)? Well, I happen to know that a car that SLED is still trying to sell in Austin (Lincoln Zephyr) has changed hands a few times…since Atti was put in charge of storing it.
March 9th, 2011 at 11:39 am
i am the one who got him banned from the HAMB. he got me for $850 and his uncle rick (who owns the cars in texas) for a couple grand. there is another guy I have been in contact with who Atti got for $3000.
this loser also posts on the professional car society forum and sells hot wheels type cars and such.
if we can get a few people together, we can all go after him.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
I’ve attempted to contact the professional car folks directly about his activities with no response. They have him listed on there as a site supporter. I’m hoping they use their better judgment and shut him down.
Bottom line: if there is anyone out there who has a felony count against him speak up. He’s using the internet to conduct fraudulent business across state lines which can easily make this a federal issue especially if there are enough charges against him and he has a clear pattern and history of behavior.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Old post on HAMB before changing his username from “Attila” to “Original Patina.” How ironic (and someone links to the thread that banned him from the Jockey Journal).
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301108&highlight=attila
I wonder (since username Attila is not banned from the HAMB yet), when will he be selling stuff under that username?
March 20th, 2011 at 1:34 am
I recently sent Atti a few hundred for a desoto grill. No grill, not answering call or e-mail. Now I see this and his banning from HAMB. Ouch! Definately a Federal violation of wire fraud. I’m sure I will never see my grill but it would be nice if he sees jail time.
March 28th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Can anybody verify that he is still driving this Volvo? Picture posted 9-6-2010
http://a.imageshack.us/img710/1768/dsc03643wc.jpg
April 4th, 2011 at 5:03 am
been in touch with a couple others. we are trying to get a class action lawsuit against him. please chime in with you info or email me. so far we have 4 people with over $8,000 that got taken.
lets get this guy off the streets!
scott@slikmetalfabrication.com
April 4th, 2011 at 5:28 am
he now has a website so we can keep track of him.
http://getbentneon.com/main.html
he seems to have droppped his myspace page, but still posts here on the professional car forums:
http://www.professionalcarsociety.org/forums/tags.php?tag=hearse
let’s keep after this guy and get him put away.
April 4th, 2011 at 8:17 am
That GetBentNeon website is a generic neon company placeholder website template.
Did you even bother to look at it? It has 555-555-5555 for the phone number contacts. It has no mention of his name anywhere. How exactly do you plan to “keep track of him” via that website?
April 8th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Last I saw it was red, not black. But I remember where he said he got it from. Called them to see if they knew how to get ahold of Atti, and what I was told was quite a doozy (typically Atti fashion – hopefully they’ll post their story here).
April 15th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
well I finally decided to chime in after finding out about atti a while back. He left Texas because the Texas rangers were tipped off to him being in the neighborhood. He was also in Texas because he was positioning himself to pull off one or two more big time score’s. I am a forum member over at the Professional Car Society and they love the guy over their and embrace every post he puts up. Seems to me that the people at the PCS forum will do business with the devil if it means them getting parts for there cars and someone to help supplement there toy collections. Yes these are grown adults playing with toy cars go figure. There does not appear to be any members that are smarter than him enough to put common sense before greed. My thoughts are you have to realize he reads all the postd on here and maintains keeping one step ahead of everyone by reading the posts here so realize that. I think the best thing to do is for a shit load of people signing onto the forum as forum members and telling your stories. Step 2 hire a bounty hunter that knows how to get him put away. Step 3 stay in touch with the Hells angels and let them know your last sighting of him so they can track him if they have issues with him as well. All you have to do is go to there web pages and provide leads. Call police in all the communities that you all live in and start raising hell and badger these agencys by asking them what they are doing about him and getting them pissed by asking for updates. Last I heard in regards to why he hasn’t gotten kiccked off the forum was because he has not swindled anybody yet. Can you believe someone has to get ripped off first before they will do something? Yes that came right from the forum administrator to bad the guy cares so little about the forum members to act as an accompliss to atti. Here is my thoughts, the PCS have a meet in ohio so I am very certain he will show up there I think he can’t resist attending. He more than likely will have changed his appearance so heads up you may not be looking for the guy pictured last time anyone seen him. He has a girl friend in the forum her name is sarah snook she must have had her salad tossed by atti and fell in love with him enough to have him on her friensds list. So contact her and find out what she knows. She lists no contact info so you will have to reach her through the sign up page she created for people attending the meet who have to register with her. I will stay in the loop and chime in soon to see if any progress is being made. iwant this guy put away simply becuase i have been conned many times before and it’s payback time. I think a reward is in order for his arrest and conviction. Anyone agree? Kiss your money goodby cause you will never see that cash again so best you can hope for is an arrest and conviction. but if he goes to prison he will just be turned out a better con than before he went in. Cons share their methods in jail and just become better at what they know how to do best.remeber he is the best at what he does sand on the PCS forum he comes off as an authority on the subject of pro cars like limo’s and hearse vehicles. He is very intwelligent and he is smartere than most people and quite articulate and intellectually spoken. He has not been caught yet because he has not met his match or at least someone that is smarter than him. As long as those car people can not live with out their car parts neon or toys they will get taken and shut up about being taken because of embarassment. Thats how he is able to keep his scam going no one is networking or at least trying hard to make his potential victims informed. I know for fact that he approached two big timers to fund container shipping of cars from mexico and they both had enough sense not to let greed override common sense so his big scores never happened and he had to hit the road. he posts lots of information on the forum so just track what he writes and in no time you will be on his heels. He is actively going to junk yards looking for hearse and ambulance parts for the forum members. So just go or mail to every junk yard info on him and tell them there is a reward on his ass and you can believe in this economy peole will want to score the cash he they set him up to get busted.
April 16th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Undertaker, the guy isn’t as smart as he thinks he is. Just audacious.
Atti will ALWAYS end up tripping over his own ego and exposing his sociopathic games.
As skillfully manipulative as the guy is it’s also pretty easy manipulate him if you figure out just how to push his buttons. He’s really not that complicated at the end of the day. Applying some rather basic psychology to his situation can cause all kinds of fun things to happen.
Here’s the most important thing I’ve discovered with Atti, once his game is blown he’s powerless. Knowing the reality of his situation changes the whole situation. Everything is a bluff. I was fooled once… but only once.
Anytime I see the guy in public it’s a real trip to walk over and just outright bully him knowing he WON’T be filing charges for assault or harassment. I’ve made it a point to embarrassingly taunt him every time I’ve seen him. NO ONE is coming to his rescue especially the authorities. It’s hilarious to watch his narcissistic personality disorder kick in as he tries to disengage from the incident and make a tactical withdrawal. The moment he gets away he’s in complete denial that anything transpired.
Everyone figures him out in due time, that should be proof enough that he’s not as good as he thinks.
The people that live in denial of his scams and actively defend him, they are the willing enablers that sociopaths seek out. They can’t exist without him. He’s VERY adept at finding those types. In his case they’re usually 40ish women with self esteem issues going though a rough time, divorce, etc. He knows EXACTLY how to control them. We saw that pattern here in Cleveland time and again. It’s disgusting. Pure emotional exploitation.
April 16th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Please help me understand what to do to help get this guy locked up? You see him and you do not notify police immediately? There are people looking for him but no body is ready to prosecute what is the sense of posting here unless there is an objective or an intended goal. Sounds like you run with the same crowd he does. You bump into him? As I understand it he posts in the NHAA forum like he owns the forum personally and does the same at the PCS forum as well. An incredibly large volume of threads and posts on the Pro Coach site are all his. He has a cult following practically and is revered as an expert in the field of pro cars. People love him and are eager to have him find parts for them. Register as a forum member at PCS and see for yourself. Start letting the members know what he is up to, get everyone that has been ripped off by him postings there stories and how much they were taken for. I can’t stand the guy. People don’t start organizing to take him down and you are still going to be writing about him 2-3 years down the road. Where are all these victims, how many are there, what are the totals of the losses seems like lots of writing but no doing. The hunt is really weak for this guy and victims are starting to sound like a bunch of frauds themselves. Jan 2009 was the first post here that is already 2 years you have been writing his biography.
April 16th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
What I have found is that many people will privately admit that while they would love to “do something,” they can’t.
He owes one guy in Austin about $5000. The guy just wants his money but can’t sue him because he can’t serve him.
And if he did serve him and get a default judgement, how would he collect? He would just spend a bunch of money and time to get a piece of paper saying he is entitled to a piece of Atti.
So what are his options? Seriously.
Atti is nomadic and the normal rules of justice cannot be used.
He also manages to find a new tribe of people to protect him once he is banished from some other group.
I tried warning other groups years ago about him and was basically told to fuck off with *my* problems as they had no problem with Atti.
Then Atti stabbed them all in the back and they booted him from their community. That’s as far as most people seem capable of going.
I think the key here is that most people have something more to lose by pursuing him. They have lives, jobs, commitments and not a lot of free time.
Atti has nothing to lose. He has no obligations and nowhere to be. He can sit behind some curtains all day and giggle at people trying to find him until they give up. (I’ve seen him do this) I would love to track him down and turn him in to the Lake County cops for the warrant they have on him.
I just don’t have the time or the knowledge of what I can legally do. Most other people are afraid of a confrontation and would rather suck up the loss than admit they got hustled.
What would you do if you found Atti? Call the police? On what charge?
He’ll deny he is who you say he is and he will have someone there to back him up. Then what do you have? A false police report on file.
What would you do if you found Atti? Club him over the head and drag him into a police station? What do you think they would do with you?
Most everyone I have spoken with just wants their money back without any more hassles. That’s it.
I thought when he crossed the Hells Angels that he would be gone but apparently they are all a bunch of pussies and “frauds” as well?
If the Hell’s Angels can’t take care of this asshole, what do you think regular folk are going to do?
Although this blog post and the comments has not managed to get him off the streets, I am still convinced that it has helped some people steer clear of him.
So in that respect, it has been useful. Unfortunately I still know people that will deal with him simply because he has not ripped them off…yet.
April 16th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
also- if anyone wants to try and track him down at the ProCar meet in July, here is the info about it:
http://www.pcs2011.com
June 18th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Ha! Now he’s selling neon to the hearse people. And so it starts…AGAIN. http://www.professionalcarsociety.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5602
July 11th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Sigh, I’ve seen this movie once before. I imagine the ending to the sequel will be the same. I tried to warn those folks, they weren’t interested.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
I really like your wordpress design, exactly where did you download it through?
October 6th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Nothing up here about Atti lately. Is he in jail? dead? no scams lately?
Oh, and what happened to Chrissy? I really liked her.
October 6th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
OH LOOK IT’S HAPPENING AGAIN!!! I really did try to warn those folks…
Posted 10-6-2011 on Friends of the Professional Car Society
http://www.professionalcarsociety.org/forums/showthread.php?s=2548d718aa51b6530e0db053cc882fc8&t=5602&page=3
Does anybody know how to make Attila actually ship something? I paid him with PayPal about 2 weeks ago, I have begged him, pleaded him, threatened him, offered more money, offered more business, all sincere offers, I bought some glass which I believed he had in stock, then he went to the wrecking yard and maybe he didn’t have it in stock, had to get it, OK, but he still won’t ship it, worse he will no longer answer my calls or eMails.
I know he has allot of angry customers, I really do not want to join them, Attila has allot to offer and I am interested in all of it, I am not a patent man, U guys know Attila better then I do, if there is somebody who can encourage him to ship my goods I would very much appreciate it, I want to buy some Jump seats he has too and some of that cool neon. but I guess I better get the first deal done first, please can anybody help?
–
With Best Regards From
Ross and Eye Barker
October 8th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Think PayPal can get me my money back?
October 8th, 2011 at 9:32 am
If you paid with PayPal, file a complaint and a request to reverse the charges immediately.
This alone may get Atti to get off his ass and get you your item.
However, he is always short of cash, so he has most likely pulled the money out of the PayPal account by now so there is not a good chance of getting the money back if that has happened.
Also- he has been known to use the eBay accounts and PayPal accounts of other “friends” for these types of things because he was kicked off eBay a long time ago, and then they get screwed over when he gets his money and his “customer” files a complaint with PayPal that ultimately freezes their eBay or PayPal account.
Atti doesn’t care, he just moves on to the next sucker who falls for his slick line of patter.
Who is the recipient on your PayPal receipt? Is it Atti? or is it someone else?
October 8th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Check this out, Professional Car Society deleted my comments about Attila, so I posted the following, See if it stays there:
Ross Barker Ross Barker is online now
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Graham WA 98338
Posts: 2
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ross Barker is on a distinguished road
Default Attila Bethlenfalvy webmaster@professionalcarsociety.org
You Removed the thread about Attila Bethlenfalvy and his thievery I think U should carefully consider that if U allow his postings in effort to sell goods and hide his feedback U could be held responsible for financial losses inured I am guessing but I think those losses might be very substantial and U should consider very carefully before U condone his actions by hiding or deleting such feedback.
Perhaps U should have a quick Look see at what other websites are doing to protect themselves from any contingent Liability
The HAMB:
HAMB Name= Original Patina
Attila S. Bethlenfalvy
1976 W 44th St.
Cleveland, OH 44113
216-392-2368
512-568-2884
getbentneonworks@gmail.com
goggomobils@yahoo.com
original.patina@gmail.com
http://www.myspace.com/atti
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a…/t-101178.html
See also MICROCAR NEWS
Atti Bethlenfalvy : CON MAN
http://www.microcar.org/blog/atti-bethlenfalvy-con-man/
CYRIL HUZE POST
Art Of Neon In Your Custom Shop Or Garage
http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2006/11/09/art-of-neon-in-your-custom-shop-or-garage/
I sent Attila $325 in response to his postings on your Forum. if I can prove you deleted comments about non-receipt and allowed in-forum advertising from Attila, I am going to come to you for my $325.00 and I think U will find yourself responsible for 10′s of thousands of Dollars in other peoples losses in the same way.
I suggest that you please replace the postings U deleted from here and allot them to remain if for no other reason then to protect yourself from the contingent liability of this man
–
With Best Regards From
Ross and Eye Barker
October 8th, 2011 at 10:57 am
btw- the “Darryl Thompson” character that does not like you posting this info there is most likely Atti posting using a “sock puppet” account. Note that “Darryl” has never posted before and signed up JUST to reply to your comments!
Atti has been known to use different accounts to post and reply in forums. I first noticed it several years ago when he posted as his own ex-girlfriend in a Yahoo Forum. He was defending himself, saying how wonderful he was or something and switched back and forth between himself and his ex-girlfriend. He screwed up when he forgot to sign out of the “ex-girlfriend” account and post as the ex-girlfriend, but using his own name instead. When he realized what he had done, he immediately deleted the post, but many people (including me) receive the messages via email, so I got a copy of it before he deleted it.
Needless to say, he never posted there again after he exposed himself.
Thanks for posting the Cyril Huze blog comment link, I was not aware it had been receiving so much “action”.
The Professional Car Society will protect Atti as long as he provides a few people with what they want.
The people who get scammed for a few hundred here and there can simply go to hell I guess.
October 8th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Darryl Thompson is indeed Attila, it can only be, only 2 Postings in his lifetime, All have been deleted now and U are correct, Attila protected, Here is a copy of “Darryl’s Recommendation” to Attila:
Again, all have been deleted now and myself predictably banned. I have little interest in being a member of a forum who would condone such activity
October 8th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Ross, I was aware of the problem with him on the PCS board, then I discovered that Attila was banned on the professionalcar.org forum before, Dont know why and dont know when exactly…but it seems that he was fair with some of the PCS members and that’s why he was protected so much, but bad with some others… even with an administrator.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:51 am
After almost a month of silence without posts (but connected several times) he’s back on the PCS forum with several “helping” posts…
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
“helping” means he needs “money” .
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
Is it possible that the first link about him being an animal “lover” is someone’s way of getting back at him? Not standing up for the guy, but I can’t imagine that someone that is actually into this would post their full name. Anyone know?
http://www.midnitecrowproductions.com/personals/posts/07-09-19/51075.shtml
November 22nd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
While I (thankfully) never heard or witnessed any of Atti’s “adventures” with 4 legged friends, I do know he was overly affectionate with animals. He’s just plain weird, and I wouldn’t put it past him, unfortunately
November 29th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
WOW!!!! … I was going through what was left by the afore mentioned (person??) who over 20 Years ago came to Me & My, then partner in Bizz, about being an intern in My shop. He brought a Friend, that later I found out He had just met. All went well and then one day here He comes with OVER 300 pounds of Glass for Neon. When asked where it came from I was informed it came from Kent State’s Neon Lab, (which at the time was a Great Program). All of the boxes were from EGL a Friend on Mine’s Company, and the Trade mark on the outer skin was “Training Glass”. Training Glass is basically seconds or Color experements that aren’t up to standards. I was the Person that asked to have the Glass DONATED to the School fore I felt it was a Very worthwhile Program.
When I asked how He got it… “Um I borrowed it”…Borrowed it??? How What did You pay for it??? I didn’t was His answer. As He was starting to empty His car into My Shop I stopped Him and said “Get it back to Kent”. The last thing I needed was Hot Glass in My Shop from a caring person in Neon. This Dick head balking and hemmed and hawwed to the Point I threw Him out of My shop and told Him NEVER COME BACK.
I was having problems in My Family and would leave town for weekends to try and mend things. At the same time My then Partner aquired a Taste for Drugs that are named after a Part of His Ass. I started to get back doored and found Myself closing after being taken for double the previous Years profit.
Little did I know that at the same time this piece of Crap was visiting My “Backdooring Partner” in order to Fab & sell waht He could.
Flash ahead 15 Years Latter:
I get a call in the middle of a production run..”Hey Man How Ya Been this is Atti”… I missed the name but the call sounded sincere, “Fine what’s up???”…My rig is down & I need to pump some stuff for Indiana…Anybody get Ripped off form Indy??? So I thought I was dealing with a Friend & bfound it to be the Weasel. I pumped His Crap for Pennys as a Friend help discount, and The Prick had the nerve to Call Me from Indy Bitching cause two of the units Broke. When He came back I processed the two just for the Karma.
Here it Comes:
This Puss Sucker calls Me with a tale of Woe..”Oh My Landlords a Prick” Yeah They are when They don’t get paid. I was on My Ass at the time and offered to let Him set a bench ot two in My shop for a Half split of Op Costs. Rent Utillitys and the like..”No problem. I help this Turd move all His Crap (Free) and set Him up. He turns on the “Biker Build Off” charm on My addicted Landlord and I start getting pressed to Give this Shithead keys to My Kingdom. I protested but was assured “I have it all under control I know where, who & how to find Him”..(LIES) .. so Junior gets Keys, has the balls to go in one night and “Clean”, but this was after His TWIN BROTHER & Daddy come to the Shop look Me in the eye and tell Me “This place is a Pig Stye”..Thank You You May LEAVE Now.
Stuff got Broke things got moved and as I later found out things disappeared. It took weeks to get back into rythem, it’s only a 2200 square space and divided to boot. Then Christmas comes, I still haven’t got ANY Rent, Utillitys, or comp for Processing His Crap. I can call it Crap this Parasite cuts at least a third of the Bends to make things crisp out of what He DOES complete. That’s right up there with two thirds of Your car getting painted and the Guy telling you …”What it’s fine!! Right..Latter”… I mean “It’s Cool it Lights right???” (Bitch). So Xmas comes & goes, so does New Years, so I figure it’s a Family thing. Then I get a TEXT I STILL HAVE!!! “I’m holding My Dog in My arms as He dies” this is January. Feb, March, April NO SHOW. BUT the Folks He took deposits from ARE!! Pissed and looking at Me as if I am the Pirate. My Landlord is filling Me full of Crap about His Mental state and other Hooie. Now We are into May and guess what???/ Landy Lord did a deal with Him TOO for a Local Harley Shop and His Putz is on the line. I put 50 hours and unknown amount of pieces parts, transformers & Glass into this Bar & Crest for this shop. The whole time trying to tell Them I Have NO CONNECTION to this RAT. As I am completing it, I get Hit from LEGAL persuit in the form that this IDIOT is calling Me His partner!! There’s Four more gigs I get to give away and I am on thin ice as it is.
ALL got covered, by My Company. All was delivered, By Me & Help I PAID. Finally the noise stopped. I chalked it up to “Never Again” Plus NO word of wheather this Shit Head was Dead or alive. Landlord finally tells Me..”Um I don’t know where He is” (Big Surprise)
It took a YEAR to recover even part of the TEN GRAND this (I ran out of ‘em sorry) cost Me not to mention what I missed as I tried to get the Ju Ju off Me.
THEN HE SHOWS UP AFTER MIDNIGHT one night with a Borrowed truck & a borrowed landscape trailer, AND TRYS TO BREAK IN!!! to get (his) gear.
One Cop came up to Me to ask if this is My shop, when I say Yes He tells Me “Proverb says, if You have 4 OUTSTANDING WARRANTS, don’t start NO SHIT”
All His gear is in the hands of the Landlord in Leiu of Moneys lost…PLUS I don’t need the shadow that crap throws.
To ALL You that got Hit…. I am so Sorry. There are People, REAL People in My Business that can & WILL pass a drug test, (on a regular basis) as well as deliver on time, what You paid for. As for the future My Company survived and handles 48 of 88 Counties of Ohio, is involved with the Casino transformation of Downtown Cleveland.
Again WOW amazing this Guy still breathes…BEWARE!!!
Hope this finds You well, My Karma is fine.
Neon Craig / CAN DO NEON / Cleveland Ohio, USA……PEACE
November 29th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Hey Neon Craig, did Atti move into your shop after he got kicked out of the factory loft off of Clark Ave? He owes those people a whole lot of back rent. I don’t remember the exact date of that event but I’m pretty sure iI remember it corresponding with the declining health of his mastiff.
He had moved into that loft space with his collection of scooters and microcars intent on setting up a neon studio and either had the gas shut off for lack of payment or couldn’t get it turned on. There was one of his typical fabricated stories to explain it away of course.
For what it’s worth thanks for mentioning the stolen neon from Kent State, Atti was STILL bragging about that during the time I had my run in with him. In fact he made a point to show me what he still had left from that haul.
December 21st, 2011 at 9:58 am
Is anybody know why he was kicked out of the professionalcar forum (not the professionalcarSOCIETY forum) few years ago? Still wondering how much time before he screw a serious adiminstrator and be kicked out of the Society.. The “helping posts” are more intensive since november.
I saw all the infos here and was interested by his past posts from 2009-2010 and was impressed by how many professional cars (mostly hearses 40′s thru 60′s) he is supposed to have purchased… and never saw any other pictures than one, in a backyard, with an annotation like “here is my last purchase”. Followed by no news on a sale, no project pictures, no hauling pictures, well, I let you guess…
December 21st, 2011 at 10:08 am
Atti does not “own” anything. He likes to give the impression that he has money and the space to store a collection of vehicles.
He has neither.
But people like to believe. He takes advantage of this.
By sharing knowledge and “helping”, he gains the trust and respect of people who know nothing about how he actually operates. These people will then defend him when his past comes back to bite him in the ass.